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First of all, I wanna open this rant with a funny image, ...
which can be found here: thoughtsnax.files.wordpress.co….

If you can't view it, it's a church marquee that reads:
"Reason Is The Enemy Of Faith!" ... Don't this mean
that to be a good Christian, you got to be stupid???

Certainly, irrational to the point of near-insanity. When
you read this rant, you'll know what I mean ...

Anyway. Don't you just hate it when ...

... someone comes onto YOUR page and leaves a bunch
of comments, but then doesn't want to hear what you got
to say, when you show them something ugly about some-
thing they think is "All That" ... and want you to think so,
too? ... AND THEY ABSOLUTELY DON'T CARE WHAT YOU
REALLY THINK? Oh, they say they understand you points,
but then, they make it clear that they either really don't
-- or they just don't give a rat's ass ...

EDIT 1:
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Like my friend said last night, about a similar incident that
I discuss below:

" ... like i said, he is being blind."

" ... because people want to cherry-pick and choose what
they read in it."

" ... they don't listen if anything is said, ... contradicting
what they think. They ignore it -- and try to use excuses
-- and debunk what the other says."

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If you've been following my comments below the past
few days, you know what troll I'm talking about.

Really, I didn't want to block anyone, ... but what do you
do when someone is shoving his opinion down your throat
and doesn't want to even THINK SERIOUSLY about what
you have to say?

How else do you deal with someone like that?

I mean, it's not like I went to HIS page, totally uninvited,
and left just about a bazillion comments, trying to get him
to see my views. He came here to try to force me to see
his points, can't really back up those points with anything
I haven't already read for years all over the Internet, ...
and then, won't even listen to what I have to say.

"Child"? ... bleeeh. Seriously. Trying to sound like a Wise
... whatever. Glad I nipped this in the bud, when he started
to use profanity.

I really don't need a discussion, especially one unasked for,
to degenerate into something like that ...

Sorry for having to say so, ... but I feel this guy was being
a total jackass. And if he's still reading my page:

Don't come onto my page ... and leave comments not be
willing to listen when the person you're talking to has some-
thing to say that might not be something you wanna hear.

Seriously, I let him have HIS say, but he clearly was not
interested in anything I had to say, especially if it made him
have to look hard at what we were really talking about ...

Why are some people like that???

EDIT 2:
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And now, I am dealing with a similar individual, on the heels
of this other incident.

This person -- sorry, I won't give his name, because I'm not
like that -- comes to me some days ago via Notes. And I am
glad that he, at least, had the courtesy to keep our current,
on-going discussing private, instead of dragging it out thru'
Public Comments for all to see.

But seriously, the longer I talk to him, the more I think that
he's no different from that other guy ...

He comes to me, acting like he's doing me a favor, when all
that he's doing this to me for is for himself. For his own ego-
gratification. With a total lack of honesty with himself as to
his motives. It's that whole knight-in-shining-armor- helping-
a-damsel-in-distress thing, acting like he's doing me a favor,
when what he's really gunning for is to make me retract all
of my opinions on the subject, just so he can go:

"WOO-HOO! VICTORY!!!" And pat himself on the back ...

Seriously, I feel like I am, for this guy, nothing more than
a lab specimen under a microscope, ... and he has just been
dissecting my mind and heart ...

He made it clear when we started he was ... curious ... to
know why I think what I do. ... I should have known better
than to let it get this far, ... seriously ...

He needs to be honest with himself about why he started
this discussion.

Well, from now on, it's like this. What I believe is none of
your business and what you believe is none of my business.
All that you'll get is whatever thoughts I have on the matter
as posted on my page. If you cannot take what you need
from what's already here, that's too bad.

I am DONE.

From now on, anyone that tries to start such a discussion,
either in Comments or Notes, ... I will gently decline. But ...
if that person persists, I will block them.

The kid gloves have come off.

I do not go to your pages, trying to force you to change
your minds. Don't come here and put a proverbial gun to
my head, trying to force me to betray my opinion.

Seriously, ... what is this? The freaking Inquisition???
What's next??? Torture in a dungeon???

... this may no longer be the Medieval Era, but it's plain
that we are still living in the Dark Ages ...

BTW, ... what you hear in a fancy Philosophical Class is not
real evidence, ... any more than hearsay in a court trial.

I seriously don't know where he even gets the idea that
opinionated speculation* proves ... anything.

(* As my friend defined it.)

And incidentally, I haven't blocked him, this second guy --
yet. He suggested that he expects me to eventually? Well,
I interpret that as him knowing that he's causing me pain
-- and being a PITA.

Why else would he expect me to eventually block him?

And if HE is reading this Journal Entry right now, here are
some things to consider:

When we are growing up, ... we are took never to talk to
strangers, accept gifts from strangers, ... or ever get into
a stranger's car.

And yet, ... THIS is okay? Blind faith in someone you've
never even met face-to-face is okay?

My friend, I submit to you that your "God" is, ... in fact,
... the Ultimate Stranger. And you got into "His" car --
after "He" tempted you with all sorts of sweets ...


And here is another thing to contemplate. You like trying
to find "Deep Meaning", even in things were there is NONE?
Well, wrap your mind around this:

"Religion is doing what you are told, ... regardless of what
is right. Morality is doing what is right, ... regardless of what
you are told."

But you think your "God's" Morality trumps everything else,
so I don't expect you to understand this, either.

All I can say is that you'd probably think that "God's" order,
for example, that you must kill all non-believers, run people
thru' with a sword ... :o (Eek)

"They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God
of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone
who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be
put to death, ... whether small or great, whether man
or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) Stare

You seriously need to find some kind of "Deeper Meaning"
... here? Really? Disbelief

Tell me, how many Unbelievers have you spilled the blood
and guts of
today??? Such things are okay to you?

It's enough to make me wanna vomit!!!

Where is your common sense, man!? WHERE!?

Altho' I can't find it right now, ... I remember that passage
about "taking up a sword" and going out to kill non-Believers
... and getting blessed for that. No, I disagree!

Really, dude, if you really think that stuff like this is moral
and righteous, just because it's in your Book, ... I am really
glad that you don't know where
I live!!! Fear

Seriously, dude. ... You're being a blind, enslaved TOOL.
And on some level, ... I pity you, ... because you have been
completely compromised way worse than whatever your
so-called "devil" could do.
 
You know as well as I do that there is no excuse for that
which is inexcusable. An evil deed is an evil deed, no matter
how much you sugar-coat it or spin-doctor it.

You are just clinging to excuses which amount to no excuse
-- at all.

There is no way you can deny you are enthralled to a tyrant
and a dictator, ... who relies on cheap brain-washing tricks
to do all of his dirty-work.

"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect,
not only to the good and gentle, ... but also to the cruel.
"
(1 Peter 2:18)

What kind of person this "God" is is very clear.

I mean, seriously, someone, tell me this guy has only been
trolling us for a cheap laugh. Is this guy really this -- I hate
to say it, but dumb and crazy???

This has GOT to be a monumental trolling stunt. I seriously
can't believe anyone is that dense ...

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:iconauroragriffin:
You're welcome. ... And it's nice to see a decent comment here, ... after the weirdness someone left on my page a few days ago. XD
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tare-musume Apr 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for the +fav!
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:iconauroragriffin:
EDIT:

"Go HAVE FUN with your murdering killer-god, and enjoy whatever fate "He" REALLY has in store for those foolish enough to fall into his web."

Sorry to my regular readers for the typo. I was typing too fast.
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:iconauroragriffin:
I knew that you wouldn't check out those vids. Which tells me that you lack true conviction in your faith; otherwise, you wouldn't mind seeing what Underlings has to say. Otherwise, you'd know your "God" DID go crazy with "His" power.

Again, we have nothing else to say to each other, since you insist on being nothing but a brainwashed puppet, a programmed robot with no real free will or any real opinion of your "God" besides what you've been told. Your head is so full of that, there's no room for whatever your real thoughts might have ever been. "The power of Indoctrination compels you! The power of Indoctrination compels you! The power of Indoctrination compels you!"

Again, I ask that you leave me alone, since you have nothing for me.

I remind you that YOU came onto MY page, obviously to troll and harass me. If you insist on doing so, I will have to block you. I only haven't so far, because I wanted to give you your say in accordance to free speech.

But this is getting out of hand.

Go hand funny with your murdering killer-god, and enjoy whatever fate "He" REALLY has in store for those foolish enough to fall into his web.

Fare well.
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:iconvader999:
If God wanted us dead, we'd be dead by now. 
You're just going in circles with your logic.

Especially with bullshit sayings like "absolute power corrupts absolutely." I can name people off of history who had absolute power but didn't go haywire with it. 
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:iconauroragriffin:
LOL!!! Seriously???

Well, I'd like you to do something for me. Go to YouTube, if you have the courage to put your faith in the innocence of you "God" to the test, and you watch this entire series, starting with this video. Then, you come back to me and try to convince me of the innocence and purity of your demonic god. These videos will open your eyes and show you that a "God" that does such things is NOT a "God", but a DEVIL, and that you have sold yourself out to that. There is more than one way to sell your soul to a devil, and playing into his hands by refusing to question him is the biggest way.

After all, if "He" is really evil, do you think for a second that he's going to be honest about it? "The Devil has the power to assume a pleasing form," right? What form is more pleasing than a supposingly "Good and Loving God" and a "Holy Savior"? You would run from a demon, but not your Jesus -- and THAT is where THIS CREATURE gets you ...

You seriously have no idea what kind of a monster this really is. You don't understand that what you are doing to yourself, believing in this fiend without question, is the most dangerous thing a person can do to themselves, for PAINFULLY OBVIOUS reasons.

Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It stands to reason that the person with the most absolute power over everything (or so he seems to think) would also be the most corrupted person in the Universe. Someone with that level of power would have to have a great sense of responsibility and a great deal of integrity.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see that here.

Anyway, I don't expect you will actually go do this, because you don't want to have your bubble popped. In fact, I know you won't -- and in so refusing to do so, you'll just be proving to me that you do not want to race the real facts of who and what your despicable, revolting, repulsive excuse for a "God" REALLY IS ...

Sorry, but unless you can show me real proof, instead of the same tired arguments I've read a million times, we seriously have nothing more to say to you.

Except that I feel sorry for you and all of those like you. You have no idea what you're mixed up in.

Now, please, unless you have something that can really convince me, and I'd really like to hear a really convincing argument, I really would, ... I would simply ask that you just leave me alone.

As far as I'm concerned, we are done ...
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:iconauroragriffin:
You're welcome.
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:iconvader999:
Ah, so wrong in so many fronts. 
The bible had strict laws because Israel was the Middle East version of Sparta: they had those laws because they needed to have a united state against their enemies and they can't brook a disturbance within their ranks.

As for God, if punishing evil to you is tyranny, then I'm glad He's that kind of tyrant.
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hopeful-undertone Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the fav! :hug:
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:iconauroragriffin:
I'm sorry, but I believe he is just a tyrant, a cosmic dictator. Pure and simple.

Show me that all this isn't just THE TERROR TACTICS of someone who is little better than a terrorist -- and I might reconsider.

Until I see proof that shows me otherwise, ... this so-called "God" is a threat to us all.
He seems to think that it's justice and totally acceptable to makes us this way, if he had anything to do with it at all, ... and then threaten to murder us over it how HE chose us to be.

Meanwhile, I refuse to let him make me live in fear because of this clear, obvious duress. If I give in to that, if I give in to what is pure terrorism on his part, extortion and an ultimatum on OUR Blood, now and later, ... then, he wins -- but for just THE WRONG REASONS.

If he's real, then he should consider this. If he won't, ... well, as I said, he's just showing his true colors, then.

If he insists on acting like an insane egotist and really damns me for my opinion, then, like any tyrant, it will be to silence the REAL truth. If I end up in his big Torture Chamber, it will be as A POLITICAL PRISONER, and there, I will make a stand to fight FOR REAL JUSTICE! I promise. I will be like Sailor Moon, fighting the Negaverse

And if I DO make it to "Heaven", I will advocate for the Rights of the Damned -- since no one, your "God" least of all, gives a literal damn ...

LOL, I know that sounds crazy, but this whole business is unreasonable.

If he's really all that good and loving, why not actually rehabilitate those that don't make the Heavenly grade? Instead of this disgusting "Damnation" sadism? Place people in a realm where they can be reformed, until they make "the grade".

Furthermore, don't go implying I'm evil for speaking out against someone that is clearly evil himself.

Have you read your Bible? I've heard plenty of passages that make me sick from that book, horrible things that any moral, sane person should find revolting, not finding excuses for.

Crimes against Human Decency -- and a lot of the crimes committed against the weak and innocent, ... including children, babies, and even the Unborn.

I'm not saying bad deeds should go unpunished, ... but let's get some criteria straight on what exactly constitutes bad deeds, shall we?
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:iconvader999:
Good people don't let evil continue without punishment. People who claim themselves to be good who let evil go unpunished are evil in themselves for not doing anything. Friends don't let friends commit evil without reprimand, and those who do are guilty of the sin of omission. 
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:iconauroragriffin:
So, ... you're saying it's alright for "God" to be a dick and do evil as long as it punishes evil? Two wrongs make a right? Might makes right? He can get away with it just because? Sorry, ... I don't buy that. All that does is excuse a dictator and a tyrant of anything. See, you've given away your reason. That makes it so that anything your "God" does or demands is, by definition, not unreasonable. There is NOTHING your "God" does that is unreasonable, then -- and because you've let "Him" TERRIFY you, all of you, into never questioning "Him", by that token, you can't say anything about his policies without fearing his UN-LOVING AND UN-GOOD WRATH. There is nothing all good and all loving here. If you were a father, would you torture your kids forever over an OPINION???
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:iconvader999:
Good also means rewarding people what they're due. Friends don't let friends act like dicks, so God brings evil to their doorstep as a friendly reminder of how their dick behavior will bite them in the ass. After all, that which doesn't punish evil cannot be called good, as it encourages evil by not punishing it. In the same way Batman is actually BAD for Gotham because all he does is make the criminals more homicidal without any permanent punishment of any kind to stop them from killing people.
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:iconauroragriffin:
Then, as far as I'm concern, that does not make him "All Good". An All Good God would be 100% incapable of "bringing evil" to anyone or even conceiving of such a notion. "He" has absolutely no business making such a claim ...
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:iconvader999:
No, child, the way you took it was far beyond its original meaning. God brings good to good people and evil to evil people. It's that simple.
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